Episode 132

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6th Apr 2024

Episode 132: From Therapist to Boss: Leadership Roles in Group Practice [featuring Lindsay Keisman]

In this episode, Patrick Casale talks with Lindsay Keisman about the intricacies of transitioning from a thriving therapist to an equally triumphant business owner.

Key takeaways:

  1. Leadership Transition - Navigating the transition from individual contributor to effective leader means understanding that it’s not an overnight change. This requires intentional development, clear communication, and alignment with the responsibilities of the new role.
  2. Mentorship is Vital - New leaders need more than just how-to books on business ownership to thrive; dedicated mentorship time and real-life guidance from those above them are instrumental in shaping a leader's ability to navigate complex business environments.
  3. Importance of HR and Leadership Knowledge - Understanding HR practices and leadership dynamics isn't just helpful; it's crucial in setting up a resilient culture and fostering a safe and structured work environment in group practices.

If you are in a leadership role in group practice, developing a good business sense and being a strategic and proactive leader is vital to business success and developing solid relationships with employees built on supportive guidance and mutual respect.

More about Lindsay:

Lindsay Keisman is a business and leadership coach focused on helping people become amazing leaders in their business. Lindsay is also a therapist and owns Pivotal Counseling Center, a mental health group practice with 3 locations in Illinois. Lindsay has a double masters in Counseling and Organizational Psychology, and is also certified as a Senior Professional in Human Resources. Lindsay is a mother to 3, enjoys spending time with her husband and extended family, and volunteers for causes in her community. Lindsay is known for helping clients design businesses that allow them to do what matters most to them. Business should exist to build a beautiful life, not become the ruler of your entire life.

Get a 10% discount on your first package of 1:1 coaching with Lindsay if they mention this podcast.

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The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur
Honest conversations about building a business while Neurodivergent, the self-doubt, the chaos, and everything in between.
The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur is a podcast for ADHD, Autistic, and all other neurodivergent entrepreneurs who are building businesses, creative work, and lives that actually fit how their brains work. Hosted by Patrick Casale, LCMHC, this show is for people who
want to create meaningful work, create outside of the box, grow their impact, and build something sustainable without losing themselves in the process.

Being a neurodivergent entrepreneur can feel like holding a lot of contradictions at once. You may have big ideas, deep passion, creative energy, and a strong desire to do things differently. You may also be navigating burnout, masking, self-doubt, perfectionism, rejection sensitivity, executive dysfunction, inconsistent energy, and the pressure to keep showing up when your capacity is already stretched. This podcast speaks to that reality honestly, because building a business around your brain, your values, and your lived experience can be powerful, complicated, messy, and deeply personal.

Patrick Casale is a chronically ill, AuDHD, mental health therapist, entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, event host, group practice owner, and neurodivergent business owner who has built, grown, burned out, pivoted, and kept going. His work brings together clinical insight, lived experience, business perspective, and real conversation about what it actually takes to create something that feels values aligned. His conversations are direct, compassionate, unfiltered, and practical, with room for both the emotional reality of entrepreneurship and the concrete decisions that shape a sustainable business.

New episodes drop every Wednesday and feature honest conversations with neurodivergent entrepreneurs, creators, therapists, business owners, and leaders. Together, Patrick and his guests explore entrepreneurship, identity, mental health, chronic health,
creativity, leadership, systems, money mindset, visibility, community, sustainable growth, and the behind-the-scenes reality of creating work that matters.

Build your dream business. Protect your capacity. Work with your brain instead of against it.