Episode 147

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20th Jul 2024

Episode 147: Redefining Neurodivergent Assessments and Overcoming Internalized Ableism [featuring Jessica Hogan]

In this episode, Dr. Jessica Hogan and I discuss neurodivergent affirming assessments and the necessity for accessible, empathetic support for neurodivergent individuals.

Key takeaways:

  1. The Paradigm Shift in Neurodivergence Awareness: Dr. Hogan emphasizes the importance of ongoing work for neurotypical clinicians to be affirming, addressing internalized ableism, and fostering a paradigm shift in understanding and accommodating neurodivergent individuals.
  2. Challenges and Visibility in the Workplace: We discuss the increasing visibility of neurodivergent and autistic clinicians and the hurdles they face in disclosing their neurodivergence. Authenticity, cultural competence, and collaboration are crucial for effective assessments and building trust with clients.
  3. Empowering Self-Diagnosis and Community Inclusion: Social media platforms are revolutionizing the way individuals relate to their neurodivergence, promoting self-discovery, and encouraging self-diagnosis. Dr. Hogan advocates for joining the neurodivergent community and seeking validation, without always requiring formal assessments.

More about Jessica:

Dr. Hogan (or Jess, whatever) is an auDHD licensed clinical psychologist in Minnesota and California, where she owns her own practice. She oversees a neuroaffirming assessment training program for doctoral students and postdoctoral fellows. With over 15 years of experience working with autistic individuals, she has been conducting autism and ADHD assessments for over a decade. Additionally, Dr. Hogan teaches psychodiagnostic assessment in a clinical PsyD program and serves as the principal investigator on a research project examining the experiences of autistic therapists. Her special interests include neurodiversity-affirming care, true crime, reading, and circus arts.

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Honest conversations about building a business while Autistic, ADHD, or both — the self-doubt, the chaos, and everything in between.
A podcast for neurodivergent entrepreneurs and mental health professionals who want to build a business, life, and body of work that actually fits how their brain operates. Through honest interviews and real conversations, Patrick Casale explores entrepreneurship, identity, burnout, overcoming self doubt, creativity, visibility, and sustainable success with neurodivergent business owners, creators, and leaders.
Host Patrick Casale is an AuDHD, a licensed therapist, and an entrepreneur who has built multiple businesses by doing it through imperfect action — which didn't always look pretty, and wasn't always comfortable. These conversations don't sanitize that. They go into the self-doubt, the burnout, the late diagnoses, the moments of "what the hell am I doing," and the stubborn refusal to quit anyway. Guests are therapists, coaches, consultants, and business owners who are Autistic, ADHD, or both — people who've figured out that the conventional path was never going to work for them and built something better in its place.