Episode 177

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15th Feb 2025

Episode 177: FLASHBACK — From Burnout to Breakthrough: Selling A Group Practice Successfully [featuring Gabrielle Juliano-Villani]

Are you a group practice owner feeling overwhelmed and considering an exit plan? Dive into our latest episode where Gabrielle Juliano-Villani talks about the emotional roller coaster of selling her practice.

This episode isn't just about the when and the how of selling a group practice—it's also a tale of personal evolution, burnout prevention, and understanding that your business is an asset.

Key Themes:

  1. Considering Selling Due to Burnout: Many private practice owners may be feeling overwhelmed by the responsibilities and stress associated with running their practice, which can lead to burnout. This episode directly addresses the emotional journey and practical considerations of selling a group practice, as Gabrielle Juliano-Villani shares her personal experience of deciding to sell due to burnout, providing guidance and reassurance to listeners who may be contemplating a similar decision.
  2. Fear of Financial and Legal Complexities: The prospect of selling a practice introduces a range of financial and legal challenges, and many practitioners may feel ill-equipped to navigate these waters. This episode alleviates these concerns by discussing the importance of having financial documentation in order, considering capital gains taxes, and understanding the value of proper bookkeeping. Patrick and Gabrielle underscore the significance of being strategic and well-informed before proceeding with a sale.
  3. Uncertainty About Future Career Path and Income Streams: Therapists often find themselves locked into the mindset of traditional one-on-one therapy sessions as their sole source of revenue and may struggle to envision alternative career paths or income streams. The discussion between Patrick and Gabrielle illuminates the vast potential of leveraging therapists' transferable skills in different ways. Try to explore diverse revenue streams, which can help prevent staying in unfulfilling situations and prepare for eventual transitions out of private practice.

More about Gabrielle:

Gabrielle Juliano-Villani is a licensed clinical social worker, consultant, coach, entrepreneur, and educator based in Sarasota, FL. She has been in the mental health field for over a decade specializing in stress, chronic health conditions, and trauma.

After realizing her own burnout in 2021, she sold her thriving group practice and made it her mission to educate others on the impact stress has on our everyday lives. Gabrielle pulls from her experience as an EMDR and Polyvagal Informed therapist to utilize mind/body approaches to help others implement everyday strategies to manage stress and live their best lives.

Gabrielle is an international speaker, retreat leader, and has been featured in Authority Magazine, The Daily Om, Bustle, and the Everyday Woman TV Network. When she's not working, Gabrielle is teaching Zumba, surfing, or reading a psychological thriller at the beach.

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Building and managing the practice you want can be challenging. That’s why Alma offers tools and resources to help you build not just any practice, but your private practice. They’ll help you navigate insurance, access referrals who are the right fit for you, and efficiently manage administrative tasks — so you can spend less time on the details, and more time delivering great care. You support your clients. Alma supports you. Visit helloalma.com/ATPP to learn more.

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Join us in Edinburgh, Scotland for the second Doubt Yourself, Do It Anyway Summit from July 14th to 17th, 2025! We have an incredible lineup of 12 speakers and offer 12 MBCCEs. If you're a leader or aspiring to start a group practice, join our Leadership Retreat in Chania, Crete, from September 6th to 11th. In 2026, we have two retreats in Queenstown, New Zealand. The first is for Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs from March 1st to 8th, and the second retreat, Beyond Private Practice, focuses on moving beyond one-on-one therapy and creating alternative income streams from March 15th to 22nd.

Spaces are limited, so check the links to sign up today. Doubt yourself, do it anyway!

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Alma

I want to thank Alma for sponsoring this episode. Building and managing the practice you want can be challenging. That’s why Alma offers tools and resources to help you build not just any practice, but your private practice. They’ll help you navigate insurance, access referrals who are the right fit for you, and efficiently manage administrative tasks — so you can spend less time on the details, and more time delivering great care. You support your clients. Alma supports you. Visit helloalma.com/ATPP to learn more.

All Things Private Practice — 2025 & 2026 Retreats

All Things Private Practice has some amazing retreat experiences coming up in 2025 and 2026. Join us in Edinburgh, Scotland for the second Doubt Yourself, Do It Anyway Summit from July 14th to 17th, 2025! We have an incredible lineup of 12 speakers and offer 12 MBCCEs. If you're a leader or aspiring to start a group practice, join our Leadership Retreat in Chania, Crete, from September 6th to 11th. In 2026, we have two retreats in Queenstown, New Zealand. The first is for Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs from March 1st to 8th, and the second retreat, Beyond Private Practice, focuses on moving beyond one-on-one therapy and creating alternative income streams from March 15th to 22nd. Spaces are limited, so check the links to sign up today. Doubt yourself, do it anyway! Doubt Yourself, Do It Anyway Summit in Scottland: https://www.empoweredescapes.com/scotland-july-2025-summit Leadership Retreat in Chania, Crete: https://www.empoweredescapes.com/greece-retreat-2025 Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs in Queenstown, New Zealand: https://www.allthingspractice.com/new-zealand-neurodivergent Beyond Private Practice in Queenstown, New Zealand: https://www.allthingspractice.com/new-zealand-income-streams

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All Things Private Practice Podcast
Real, authentic conversations about the psychological side of small business ownership and private practice startup.
All Things Private Practice Podcast TM is where we dive deep into the gritty, unfiltered world of being a mental entrepreneur, mental health professional, and a private practice therapist. Join us as we explore the emotional roller coaster of small business ownership, tackling the raw and unapologetic aspects that often go unspoken. In each episode, we fearlessly dissect self-doubt, resilience, impostor syndrome, and paralyzing perfectionism. This podcast normalizes fear and failure and helps make the small business journey relatable.
Patrick Casale is an Autistic ADHD licensed clinical mental health therapist, group practice owner, business coach, consultant, Keynote speaker, retreat host, and 7-figure entrepreneur. He interviews industry experts to share their stories of resilience, and to offer "how-tos" to help support your entrepreneurial journeys.
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