Episode 189

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10th May 2025

Episode 189: Motivational Interviewing — Fostering Hope in Uncertain Times [featuring Hillary Logan]

It can be easy to feel overwhelmed, burnt out, or in need of hope during uncertain times in our lives. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Hillary Logan talk about using Motivational Interviewing (MI) as a realistic, strengths-based way to cultivate hope—even amidst collective uncertainty.

3 Key takeaways:

  1. Reground in the “Spirit” of MI: Hillary highlighted four core elements—compassion, acceptance, empowerment, and partnership. By practicing self-compassion and embracing self-acceptance, we allow ourselves the grace to be where we are, not where we “should” be.
  2. Empowerment Isn’t All-or-Nothing: Sometimes taking action means boundary-setting, resting, or simply stepping away from the news to protect your mental health. Empowerment can look like giving yourself permission to do less, not more.
  3. Community and Connection Matter: Whether it’s drawing on our internal resources or actively seeking community support, partnership—both with ourselves and others—is vital for resilience. Even small moments of connection can restore hope and energy during tough times.

More about Hillary Logan, MSW, LCSW and LCAS, member of the MINT:

Hillary Logan has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2011. She is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Addiction Therapist. Hillary has worked as a helping professional for 20 years, ranging from working in wilderness therapy to community mental health, providing in-home and school-based services, and as a therapist with specialties including working with anxiety, trauma, addiction, and veterans.

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All Things Private Practice Podcast
Honest conversations about building a business while Autistic, ADHD, or both — the self-doubt, the chaos, and everything in between.
A podcast for neurodivergent entrepreneurs and mental health professionals who want to build a business, life, and body of work that actually fits how their brain operates. Through honest interviews and real conversations, Patrick Casale explores entrepreneurship, identity, burnout, overcoming self doubt, creativity, visibility, and sustainable success with neurodivergent business owners, creators, and leaders.
Host Patrick Casale is an AuDHD, a licensed therapist, and an entrepreneur who has built multiple businesses by doing it through imperfect action — which didn't always look pretty, and wasn't always comfortable. These conversations don't sanitize that. They go into the self-doubt, the burnout, the late diagnoses, the moments of "what the hell am I doing," and the stubborn refusal to quit anyway. Guests are therapists, coaches, consultants, and business owners who are Autistic, ADHD, or both — people who've figured out that the conventional path was never going to work for them and built something better in its place.