Episode 207

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13th Sep 2025

Episode 207: Building Back Stronger: Tattooing, Writing, and Diversifying After Disaster [featuring Chris and Daisy Chavers]

In this episode, Patrick Casale talks with Chris and Daisy Chavers, an incredibly talented husband-and-wife duo behind Red Rabbit Tattoo, whose journey epitomizes what it means to persevere through a catastrophic disaster.

From losing their Asheville tattoo shop to Hurricane Helene, to reestablishing roots in Savannah and boldly diversifying their business, Chris and Daisy’s story is a testament to the grit behind small business ownership.

Here are 3 key takeaways:

  1. Adaptability Isn’t Optional—It’s Survival: Catastrophic setbacks, like natural disasters, don’t just affect businesses—they impact entire communities and personal identities. Surviving as small business owners—and eventually thriving—requires creativity, quick pivots, and a willingness to experiment with new income streams.
  2. The Entrepreneurial Journey is Unpredictable and Vulnerable: Daisy’s leap from tattooing to writing, and Chris’s foray into new ventures, highlight the importance of allowing yourself to evolve. Embracing vulnerability can unlock authentic creativity—and new opportunities you never expected.
  3. Community and Connection Are Foundations for Recovery: Even in moments of loss, leaning on your network and focusing on relationships with clients, peers, and loved ones is critical. Collective resilience carries us further than going it alone.

More about Chris and Daisy:

Chris and Daisy Chavers are a husband-and-wife duo with deep roots in the tattooing world. Chris brings decades of experience to the craft, known for his precision, bold style, and deep commitment to the art of tattooing. Daisy specializes in delicate florals, fine line work, and cosmetic and paramedical tattooing, offering everything from scar camouflage to restorative procedures.

Together, they have built a reputation for excellence, creativity, and care in every piece of work they do. Now, Daisy is expanding her creative expression beyond the tattoo studio and into the world of writing. Her latest venture blends humor, heart, and hard-won wisdom—offering stories that connect, heal, and inspire.

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The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur
Honest conversations about building a business while Neurodivergent, the self-doubt, the chaos, and everything in between.
The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur is a podcast for ADHD, Autistic, and all other neurodivergent entrepreneurs who are building businesses, creative work, and lives that actually fit how their brains work. Hosted by Patrick Casale, LCMHC, this show is for people who
want to create meaningful work, create outside of the box, grow their impact, and build something sustainable without losing themselves in the process.

Being a neurodivergent entrepreneur can feel like holding a lot of contradictions at once. You may have big ideas, deep passion, creative energy, and a strong desire to do things differently. You may also be navigating burnout, masking, self-doubt, perfectionism, rejection sensitivity, executive dysfunction, inconsistent energy, and the pressure to keep showing up when your capacity is already stretched. This podcast speaks to that reality honestly, because building a business around your brain, your values, and your lived experience can be powerful, complicated, messy, and deeply personal.

Patrick Casale is a chronically ill, AuDHD, mental health therapist, entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, event host, group practice owner, and neurodivergent business owner who has built, grown, burned out, pivoted, and kept going. His work brings together clinical insight, lived experience, business perspective, and real conversation about what it actually takes to create something that feels values aligned. His conversations are direct, compassionate, unfiltered, and practical, with room for both the emotional reality of entrepreneurship and the concrete decisions that shape a sustainable business.

New episodes drop every Wednesday and feature honest conversations with neurodivergent entrepreneurs, creators, therapists, business owners, and leaders. Together, Patrick and his guests explore entrepreneurship, identity, mental health, chronic health,
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