Episode 43

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31st Jul 2022

Episode 43: My Job Is Actually Killing Me — It's Finally Time To Quit [featuring Celina Jacques]

Imagine being in a hospital bed and your boss is calling you, asking you where your work laptop and productivity reports are.

I'm sure you've worked at a job that didn't care about you, and only cared about your productivity.

Hell, we live in a capitalist society, and community mental health is no different. A lot of the time it can feel like an emotionally abusive relationship.

Creating your own journey, your own path, and doing so within your values, beliefs, and passions is special. It's bold. And it takes courage.

Celina Jacques, an art therapist, retreat planner, private practice owner, and the moderator of "Not Your Mom's Therapist" FB group, talks about her journey from community mental health into her private practice.

We talk about being yourself, being willing to say FU*K the mold, and how to reconnect back to your roots.

Celina talks about...

  • Her experiences with racism and microaggressions at her job.
  • Being in the hospital and having her boss calling her demanding that she hands in her notes, laptop, and reports.
  • "Money Flows to Me Freely, and Effortlessly, and I Make Money Doing The Things That I Love."
  • The balance between doing what she loves and working within her values.
  • Her great-grandmother's indigenous and sacred healing practices.
  • How she was going to be a healer one way or another, and that academia was just the vessel.


The era of psychotherapy is changing, and thankfully for the better. We're starting to move into an era where culture is finally considered, and not everything has to be "evidence-based treatment."

More about Celina:

Celina specializes in using creativity and ritual for healing the heart, mind, and spirit. She is a creative soul, a wounded healer, an artist, therapist, and art therapist. For the last 20 years, she has been working with mentors, healers, and teachers to deepen her spiritual practice, study meditation, neuroscience, and begin to earn about the ancient healing practice of Curanderismo (traditional Mexican spiritual healing). Her creative, spiritual, and academic paths have converged to support an approach to healing that pulls knowledge from the ancestors and contemporary science to reclaim ancient wisdom in new ways.

She is the founder of a therapist community for unconventional psychotherapists called Not Your Mom’s Therapist which focuses on radical inclusion and humility by highlighting intersectional psychotherapy provided by people who self identify as alternative, strange, different, and/or magical. The community continues to grow exponentially and now includes several sister groups including burnout support, interdisciplinary mental health, and BIPOC ancestral healing.

Check out Celina's Patreon membership program! It's to support decolonizing mental health with blog, guided meditations, and art therapy workshops. All donations go to community fund for supporting low income POC to access private therapy: Patreon.com/celinajacques

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