Episode 191

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24th May 2025

Episode 191: Why a Great Group Practice Beats Going Solo: Dialectics, Support, and Less Stress [featuring Sabrina Longley]

In this episode, Patrick Casale and Sabrina Longley, LCSW at Resilient Mind Counseling, talk about why authenticity, open communication, and a supportive work environment matter so much for therapists who’d rather work for someone else than run their own practice. They also share how embracing your identity and using dialectics can boost confidence and create a healthier, more collaborative workplace.

Here are 3 key takeaways:

  1. The Power of Authenticity: Sabrina beautifully highlights how living authentically at the intersection of her identities (Black, fat, neurodivergent, extroverted, and more) has been non-negotiable for her well-being and effectiveness as a therapist. When workplaces embrace this authenticity, it fuels real connection and reduces burnout.
  2. Entrepreneurship isn't for Everyone: There’s immense value in group practice—especially for those who crave structure, community, and stability. Sabrina reminds us that thriving as a therapist doesn’t require running your own business; finding the right container can be just as empowering.
  3. Leadership is About Relationship, Not Just Revenue: Patrick’s approach as a group practice owner—centering transparency, vulnerability, and accountability—creates psychological safety for his team. Open communication, a willingness to receive feedback, and acknowledging power dynamics are essential for retention and growth.

Whether you’re a therapist seeking the right clinical setting or a practice leader looking to build an inclusive and supportive team, these insights are a great reminder: You can build (and find) workplaces where everyone has permission to show up as themselves.

More about Sabrina:

I'm an LCSW working in NC with no dreams of becoming a private practice owner. Instead, I have been seeking (and have found) my therapeutic "home". I hold many intersectional identities, and finding the right fit has taken hard work and lessons learned. I live in the triangle area of NC and have worked in IOP and outpatient level of care.

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Honest conversations about building a business while Neurodivergent, the self-doubt, the chaos, and everything in between.
The Neurodivergent Entrepreneur is a podcast for ADHD, Autistic, and all other neurodivergent entrepreneurs who are building businesses, creative work, and lives that actually fit how their brains work. Hosted by Patrick Casale, LCMHC, this show is for people who
want to create meaningful work, create outside of the box, grow their impact, and build something sustainable without losing themselves in the process.

Being a neurodivergent entrepreneur can feel like holding a lot of contradictions at once. You may have big ideas, deep passion, creative energy, and a strong desire to do things differently. You may also be navigating burnout, masking, self-doubt, perfectionism, rejection sensitivity, executive dysfunction, inconsistent energy, and the pressure to keep showing up when your capacity is already stretched. This podcast speaks to that reality honestly, because building a business around your brain, your values, and your lived experience can be powerful, complicated, messy, and deeply personal.

Patrick Casale is a chronically ill, AuDHD, mental health therapist, entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, event host, group practice owner, and neurodivergent business owner who has built, grown, burned out, pivoted, and kept going. His work brings together clinical insight, lived experience, business perspective, and real conversation about what it actually takes to create something that feels values aligned. His conversations are direct, compassionate, unfiltered, and practical, with room for both the emotional reality of entrepreneurship and the concrete decisions that shape a sustainable business.

New episodes drop every Wednesday and feature honest conversations with neurodivergent entrepreneurs, creators, therapists, business owners, and leaders. Together, Patrick and his guests explore entrepreneurship, identity, mental health, chronic health,
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